00:00:56 Jessica White: We are having a thunderstorm so if I flinch it's lightning. 00:06:20 Cher Stein: Louisiana 00:06:24 Heidi: Texas 00:06:24 Pam Walker: Florence, KY 00:06:26 Tama Fortner: Nashville! 00:06:27 Lynn Myers: Tennessee 00:06:29 Marla Brunaugh: I’m Marla Brunaugh and I’m from Carbondale, IL 00:06:30 Kelly: I'm in Bardstown, KY. 00:06:32 tammy.warren: Crestwood, Ky (near Louisville) 00:06:34 Gay Lynn Cronin: Chicago area 00:06:38 sharonhcarpenter: Outside Memphis. Im here to see about earning some $ 00:06:45 Lynn Myers: bells 00:07:19 Kelly: I'll be there with you Rhonda 00:07:29 Jessica White: I wanted to come tonight Rhonda but I have critique group to run. But I will definitely listen to the recording. 00:11:10 Karen Bradford: mkbrad24@gmail.com bkbrad60 00:13:03 Rhonda Dragomir: Up front money sounds great, right? Are you with me, friends? 00:14:00 Rhonda Dragomir: http://www.macgregorandluedeke.com/blog/ask-agent-book-doesnt-earn/ 00:14:08 Rhonda Dragomir: That's the link to the article. 00:17:13 Barbara Britton: So many Moms in my church rave about "Indescribable." I have bought it for gifts. 00:18:29 Eugenia: ????Is that true with magazine articles? 00:19:03 sharonhcarpenter: we adore Indescribable! I have purchased it for all my grandkids 00:19:08 Rhonda Dragomir: I'm not sure if work-for-hire articles will give a byline. Let's ask. 00:19:37 Elaine McAllister: They do - at least where I've done them. 00:20:14 Elaine McAllister: I've done work for hire w/Randall House and yes, I got a byline. 00:20:15 Cher Stein: How do you solicit for projects? 00:20:19 marybethdahl: Where do you find work-for-hire jobs? 00:21:22 marybethdahl: Follow up question: do you recommend Fiverr or Upwork? 00:21:30 Bettie: evelynchristensen.com/markets.html Here is a magic bullet for you 00:22:05 Eugenia: ??My question was actually could you count the articles distribution as sales numbers. I have the by lines. 00:22:27 sharonhcarpenter: Thanks, Bettie! 00:23:27 Rhonda Dragomir: https://michellemedlockadams.com/ is a good resource for work-for-hire and ghostwriting articles. Eugenia - I believe the answer is yes - you can count the article distribution in proposals. The trick is finding the circulation numbers. 00:25:41 Eugenia: Thank you. 00:25:41 Rhonda Dragomir: Bettie's link for children's educational markets: http://evelynchristensen.com/markets.html 00:26:02 Cher Stein: How does that work as far as the creativity of the writer. Do you have to be able to write in "another" creative mind? I don't no how to type out exactly what I'm asking. 00:26:30 Rhonda Dragomir: Cher - I think I understand your question. Let's ask when she pauses. 00:28:15 Eugenia: ????I noticed you have written several books that seem to come out in the same year. How long do you typically get to ghost a book? 00:29:22 Elaine McAllister: I never thought I would be a ghostwriter -- but I absolutely LOVED the experience, enjoyed the income, and made a forever friend in the process of doing so. Amazing experience. 00:31:13 Elaine McAllister: I found it like what I would imagine a surrogate mother would go through -- you've nurtured it, loved it, crafted it, carried it -- but in the end, it's THEIR baby! 00:31:27 Rhonda Dragomir: Great analogy, Elaine! 00:39:43 Rhonda Dragomir: This is great advice! 00:42:38 Rhonda Dragomir: Chicago Manual of Style. Christian Writers' Manual of Style. Links for both these books are in the handout for my Writers' Toolbox seminar later tonight. 00:43:11 Rhonda Dragomir: Chicago Manual: https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/home.html 00:44:06 Rhonda Dragomir: Christian Writers' Manual of Style: https://www.amazon.com/Christian-Writers-Manual-Style-4th/dp/0310527902/ref=pd_lpo_14_t_0/137-7517031-4169929?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=0310527902&pd_rd_r=3a5d21ee-2715-4432-bc2c-55399cab8f0e&pd_rd_w=04VjU&pd_rd_wg=DG196&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-94d3-61b87b52511b&pf_rd_r=Q6BSG995WF9A4PR0VW90&psc=1&refRID=Q6BSG995WF9A4PR0VW90 00:44:30 Rhonda Dragomir: Whoo, that's a long link! Just be sure you shop for the 4th edition (the latest). 00:45:06 Elaine McAllister: Tama - you've done a TREMENDOUS job sharing info 00:45:35 Heidi: You did a great job presenting, Tama! 00:46:43 Cher Stein: I mimic a person's speak, too. 00:47:22 sharonhcarpenter: Do you need to have a strong portfolio of work in order to get work, or do editors just take a chance on a brand new writer? 00:48:54 tammy.warren: What is the greatest compliment you've ever been given about your writing? 00:48:56 marybethdahl: This has been super helpful! Thank you! 00:50:56 Barbara Britton: Thank you for expanding our writing horizons, Tama. 00:52:01 Cathy Robinson: Tama, thank you! You've given us a lot of information to get started with. 00:52:41 sharonhcarpenter: Thank you Tama! This was very helpful. 00:52:59 Kelly: Enlightening! 00:56:04 Elizabeth: I have a question. What writing skills should you have under your belt before you take on a work for hire project? 01:00:38 Elizabeth: Thank you. 01:00:53 Bettie: When you apply to a company to write for hire, most places require unedited writing samples that they will read before hiring you. 01:02:06 Rhonda Dragomir: Fiverr - get jobs as a freelancer. 01:06:13 Eugenia: Thank you so much. 01:08:27 susan: thanks! 01:08:30 Tracy Schuldt Helixon: Thank you! 01:08:30 Cher Stein: this was great! 01:08:35 Kelly: Great persentation 01:08:37 Elaine McAllister: Great session. 01:08:37 Barbara Britton: Thank you so much for informing us. 01:08:45 Floss: Very informative, Tama. Thank you very much!! 01:09:08 Cher Stein: Looking forward to this evening! 01:09:21 Kelly: see you at 8,